seeker22 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:36 pm
Of course what I post gets deleted but not the comment that started it all
I feel that should have been deleted but of course not
Another thing I don't give care about your medical conditions if you can't moderate it well appoint someone who can
Maybe Viredae should appoint mods, but I don’t think you realize that anyone appointed would 100% ban your ass from the moment you put “troll comment”.
But also imagine shaming someone over needing to be in the hospital and needing medical care. Kindly go fuck yourself.
*Lady Lucia* wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:37 am
At the risk of sounding vain, I'm really glad I started the trend for voting on ENF contests a few years ago--My memory is a little hazy, so I'm not sure if I was the first first, but it's gradually become the most standard practice on here since then. Humilatron's speculation is actually more than speculation; it's history. I distinctly remember a judge or two a while back specifically dismissing stories because they didn't like certain niche/fetish elements involved. Like, that bias was TYPED OUT as part of their reasoning for who won. Never sat well with me.
I’ve never really said this but I was actually one of the people who hosted contests and judged such contests. That was during the time there were a LOT more authors and also usually no real word count limit. The entries would close and I’d have about a day or two to read all of the entries and vote on who I felt deserved to win. Sometimes the results extended longer but it was usually a quick turn around. I did at one point type out explanations of my choices but when you have 20 entries at some point the explanations get pretty much dwindled down to quality, grammar, personal enjoyment, etc.
And while I was probably one of the more fair judges, I still have things that turn me on and turn me off. Like some authors would submit just a wall of text and I can tell you right now I never read through them. I just can’t. So while I’m sure judging could improve the contests in some manners, it also isn’t viable when you have most people here with real life work, school, whatever else and tight turn arounds. It’s impossible to have unbiased results but at least with polling people have to be biased together.
I definitely feel that pain. Pretty much any passion and/or unpaid commitment can turn into a low priority back burner thing or end up rushed due to how there are so many hours in the day.
To your point, it definitely wasn't every contest! Most of the time, it was pretty clear who the winner would be, or at least possibly to guess the top 2/3 simply due to quality and creativity. For me, it was more when an entry checked those boxes--well written and creative--but got dismissed because the judge wasn't into XYZ element. Kind of unfair to the writer, unless it was something more fetish-like that strayed too far from the ENF genre!
If not voting, I also remember when the old board had a panel of judges. That also would have been cool to know who was judging and maybe how the voting process worked. Of course, that goes back to your point about personal life getting in the way and such. Coordinating with the other judges to communicate everything to the masses would have been a bit of an undertaking, unless one person was particularly available to shoulder the load. I also don't think community voting is the end all, be all. My favorite thing about these contests has been the creativity in prompts, contest style, etc. So if there's a new, unique way for judging to happen, I'd be interested to see it!
seeker22 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:36 pm
Of course what I post gets deleted but not the comment that started it all
I feel that should have been deleted but of course not
Dude...read the room.
I made a joke comparing your "vote fishy" comment to the MAGA movement. I didn't even insult you (or them), I just mocked how they are famous for denying elections. It's not like this is a secret, the MAGA leaders are openly proud of their election denialism. Earlier today Trump tweeted that the Supreme Court was "corrupt" because it refused to take his election denial seriously.
If you'd like, I can retroactively compare your comment to Bolsonaro of Brazil since his fascist ass is pulling the whole "I lost so the election must be rigged" game himself now. The funny part, though, is that Brazil's court immediately threw the book at Bolsonaro and his entire political party as retaliation for trying that. Either way, would it make you happy if I went and edited the original comment to reference Bolsonaro instead of MAGA? I'm good either way. I'm a globally-minded antifascist lol.
