Seth's High School Humiliation (New Dec. 14)

[lugro]

So we still have to see two interesting devices in action.

And those special pills... I'm having a million ideas about their acronyms...

[Trundle]

Short but very sweet latest chapter.

Nice to get a little flashback scene, as we see Mrs Masters arranging things that were yet to come at that point. If only Seth knew as he stood in the doorway what was about to happen to him over the coming days.

I really liked this technique, showing us a previous scene but with a little different perspective. Hopefully you use this technique again at some point.

Also, butt plugs! Oh dear oh dear. Poor Seth

[imanewb]

Oh I like the flashback... sheds some light on things which, depending how you choose to read it, clears a few things up, or makes them even more unclear

Is, for example, Mrs. Masters the instigator or simply 'following orders'... (not a request for clarification, just thinking out loud) - it's unclear, adding intrigue - which is good... and could easily go either way (although with comments like being 'aware of the risks' and going ahead regardless, I'm leaning towards instigator, for reasons as yet unknown) and curiosity about that and outcome will likely keep me reading...

That said, without wishing to detract from anyone else's enjoyment of the story, things like bad drug interactions & butt plugs would be a step too far for me... that's moving from 'merely' humiliating (for whatever reason) to, potentially, being very physically / psychologically harmful, potentially fatal even - not that I'm suggesting you'd necessarily go that far (unless you've changed your mind from when we were discussing ways Seth might be expected to react)...

e.g. A butt plug for a straight guy (who knows he can't trust anyone to keep it secret), is not something I could see any character willingly submitting themselves too, regardless of how keen they might be to graduate/take up a scholarship (a suspension of disbelief issue), whereas forcing/coercing the issue would, to me, feel too rapey... either of which would likely be the end point for me.

Although, even as I typed that the little hamster was running circles on the wheel in my head - using the butt plug as a catalyst for something like

• She says something to the effect of 'you'll wear that, or else...'
• Seth says no, and storms out... in a blind panic, probably... worrying about what the 'sick bitch' is doing to him...
• Returns home to find school has pressured parents who, not knowing what's going on, get on Seth's case...
• Seth, not trusting parents, the school (remembering how the coach backed down), etc goes back with a plan, secretly records Mrs. M...
• Seth, says no again, storms out & goes to police and/or the press to **try** and get her stopped
• we find out a little more about the background / how highly this is sanctioned by the police response/newspaper article...
• and the story moves on from there...

She might respond to an article, for example, by revealing the 'legitimacy' of what she's doing, giving the story of all of Seth's 'exploits', spreading his humiliation far and wide (even if the story doesn't mention him by name, being a minor and all)... dropping Seth out of whatever 'this' is, opening the field for things to spread/continue whether he ever goes back to school / goes to college... and depending how 'malicious' you want to be towards the character, of course.

No reason he couldn't have a 'mental breakdown', for example, and still suffer at school/home - even if that does take some of the 'fun' out of it for the 'nurses'... oh, he's just doing whatever we tell him, and not reacting any more.... i think we broke our toy... or maybe he's just pretending...

or, (at the end of this story arc) a scene something like... Seth, all out of fucks to give, strips himself bare in the cafeteria... yelling out his angst... 'what am I doing? Who cares? You've all seen me like this already... enjoyed watching me suffering while the evil bitch ruined my life... that's it, laugh it up... but watch your backs... if she can do this to me, what's stopping her from doing it to you too... (yelling as he's dragged off)...

i.e. dramatically revealing what's been going on... and force her to 'read in' the rest of the staff/student body, some of whom take great pleasure in continuing/enhancing his torture (either continuing in the current story, or in a new, post HS environment)

Not that I'm trying to tell you how to write your story, do whatever you like to your characters - all I can ask is that you use your 'evil genius' to include a believable response (particularly to more extreme provocation) and then work your way around that as, fantasy or not, maintaining suspension of disbelief is important.

edited for clarity, hopefully.

[dsweenz71]

Another athletic young guy who has no idea what he's in for.

My apologies - I realize my wording almost seemed as if there was a new person. It was meant to be a flashback scene... the wording is adjusted and I hope you'll read it again!

And those special pills... I'm having a million ideas about their acronyms...

Purposely vague for suspense, but you'll come to learn all of them soon enough.

I really liked this technique, showing us a previous scene but with a little different perspective. Hopefully you use this technique again at some point.

I was planning to revisit an early scene initially and then saw I'd set things up perfectly having her on the phone with a Mr. Donahue... I wonder how many authors' foreshadowing is completely accidental like this.

things like bad drug interactions & butt plugs would be a step too far for me...

Always good to know what people like and don't like. I am not planning any bad drug interactions (meaning they will work exactly as intended) but if I use the plugs in a chapter, I'll ensure to include a disclaimer. Don't forget though, Seth did get a lot of enjoyment out of the fingering which he didn't exactly welcome at first either. My characters are rarely found in super dark situations... and while I can't promise realism, suspension of belief might allow you to see how a straight boy ends up accepting... well, everything he has accepted so far (and the escalating activities that he will continue to accept).

[Trundle]

I understand people having reservations about it but the butt plug stuff is fine with me I think.

Especially with it being remote controlled and also as you said, Seth starting to take a liking to that. As much as he must try and deny he enjoys it to himself, there's plenty of evidence he likes it

[dsweenz71]

As much as he must try and deny he enjoys it to himself, there's plenty of evidence he likes it

Nothing gay about anal sex If Sara was a little more adventurous, Seth might have found out he liked the feeling earlier.

[imanewb]

Don't forget though, Seth did get a lot of enjoyment out of the fingering which he didn't exactly welcome at first either. My characters are rarely found in super dark situations... and while I can't promise realism, suspension of belief might allow you to see how a straight boy ends up accepting... well, everything he has accepted so far (and the escalating activities that he will continue to accept).

meh, so much for clarity :p

The point i was trying to make, badly it seems, was that being 'forced' to bugger himself/be buggered like that, whether he ultimately enjoys it or not, goes well beyond mere humiliation (although the realisation that he likes it may be an extra humiliation in and of itself) and would require no small creative effort* to work around believably to get him to do it 'voluntarily' in the first place (no, not expecting anything like realism!) whereas, something at the other end of the force spectrum: incapacitating him and forcing a foot long, 'tree branch' up his virgin arse, without lube (illustrative only - i'm not implying any such intent on your part) would, for me, completely break the story/character.

*fortunately you've been good at meeting such challenges in previous chapters.

That said, without knowing how, or even if, you 'd implement butt plugs, sizes, etc... It's impossible to judge before/if you've even written it... either way, I don't dispute he might enjoy the stimulation/effect... plenty of people do, straight, gay and everywhere in between.

oh, unrelated to this specifically... just wondering if you have any idea on timescale/remaining chapters before the 'big reveal'?

[dsweenz71]

just wondering if you have any idea on timescale/remaining chapters before the 'big reveal'?

The best I can offer is that it will not go beyond the end of the school year. I envision about three in-story weeks left (I might have to go back and edit down however many weeks I had Mrs. Masters say he needed to spend in this club). So we are perhaps halfway through

[TeenFan]

A "butt plug" device I would consider acceptable in some situations. Often they are not that large in size and once inserted are mainly noticeable
when activated. (based on observation of video footage, not personal experience..lol) Let's not jump to conclusions as to how any chapter using
any sort of devices will be written.

I have such a device planned for one of my main stories. It's been planned for some time, just working my way to that part of the story.
The appeal to using such a device is that it can be hidden from others, does not impede in any way what the character is doing, and can
cause a non-painful problem with maintaining normal composure in a public setting. Also it will probably cause even more issues with
erections in these public settings. Could lead to leakage at a bad time. I'm guessing as to where that scene will be going.

Since these things don't cause physical damage, and if the character ends up liking the sensations and will want to repeat them (as has been
hinted at), then I don't see any problem with using said device.

[imanewb]

A "butt plug" device I would consider acceptable in some situations. Often they are not that large in size and once inserted are mainly noticeable
when activated. (based on observation of video footage, not personal experience..lol) Let's not jump to conclusions as to how any chapter using
any sort of devices will be written...

these things don't cause physical damage, and if the character ends up liking the sensations and will want to repeat them (as has been
hinted at), then I don't see any problem with using said device.

In such circumstances, neither do I (as I hope is clearer from my second attempt at explaining my thought process)...

Believe it or not, I really do try to avoid jumping to conclusions... but maybe my brain's just weird, because the story keeps implying (at least as I read it) darker paths than the author (keeps) saying he's not following - and, truthfully, I believe him, although I can see how it might come across that I don't.

This difference in perception is illustrated well by something dsweenz said earlier today...

suspension of belief might allow you to see how a straight boy ends up accepting... well, everything he has accepted so far (and the escalating activities that he will continue to accept)

As I read the very well written story, and based on nothing more than the author's words, I don't see Seth as accepting his treatment... rather, I see him as grudgingly enduring it, with a certain goal in mind (graduate, escape the 'evil witch', go to college)...

And, notwithstanding that he might enjoy some aspects - particularly any physical response, suspension of disbelief can therefore only allow me, and people like me, to see him be pushed 'so far' before something would have to give (lest the story 'break')... if it wasn't so well written, one could just go 'oh well' and ignore such 'issues' (got to call them something) and/or go read something else.

(How often do you hear that? It's written too well!!)

Damn, that was only gonna be a 'yeah, that's kinda what I was trying to say' comment... and then my little hamster got his wheel spinning again.