Elizabeth – Insider Trading Gone Wrong - Grand Finale Added (Content Warning: Rape)

[jimmythehand]

If there is a problem reading a story, that's fine. If the concern is significant, then comment. I'm not sure that asking anyone to post on another board is warranted. Not in this occasion for this story.

There seem to be a few posters that seem to try to moderate this board by what they like. That makes me queasy.

I don't mean this to be personal or rude, but I find it difficult to accept the board being moderated by a few self appointed posters. If you have a comment make it, but don't tell others to make contributions to another board. Quite frankly, that isn't your place.

As I said, I don't want this to be seen as personal or aggressive, but I would like there to be a discussion between those using the board.

As one of the people that posted and in the spirit of the discussion you requested, I'd like to respond to the accusation of being a self appointed moderator seeking to impose my personal preference.

HM2014 had acknowledged the story may have crossed a line for some readers and requested any feedback, both positive and negative:

I'd love to hear your comments and feedback.

I know the content may have crossed the line for some, but any feedback, even negative, will be much appreciated.

In my case (and I believe in the case of the other posters too) I responded with my personal feedback, as requested. For me, it was that the story was very good but probably didn't fit the culture of this particular board. I would hope that was taken as my personal opinion as a reader, in response to the author's request for feedback. I certainly have never attempted to moderate this board and have no particular desire to do so - that's Viredae's job and one I hope he continues with for quite some time!

[cober]

I liked the story up until the forced anal not for reasons stated i just felt that no 14 old would been unable to control himself in such a situation especially an inexperienced self proclaimed nerd.

On anti forced sex element lets be real the mental scarring and long term mental health harm from some of tamer humiliation stories on these boards if they occured in real life would be much worse then the rape in this story.

But its a story and he put a warning up case closed....

[Stella]

I've just looked back over the board guidelines at the top of the board index and I think point number 5 is pertinent here and may have avoided most of the controversy. I quote...

"5) As you can see by reading some of the posts the stories range from simple humorous adolescent pranks or experiences, to stories involving more sexually explicit material. All I ask is if your story contains explicit material please make sure it is age appropriate (aka not illegal) and issue a warning letting the reader know in advance."

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
In your story you have two schoolboys coercing an adult woman to strip. You have a 13 year old girl conducting affairs. All the actions would be illegal, whether committed by a child or adult.

In this context, what exactly do you mean by 'age appropriate '.

If you are talking about sexual intercourse, then you may have a point, but then this would encompass any insertion into a body as this is the definition of rape in many countries. Its inclusion is often found on this board.
So where exactly should the line be drawn? It's a valid question, but if debated it needs to be honestly dealt with rather than a few posters acting as judge and jury.

I don't mean this to be personal or rude, but I find it difficult to accept the board being moderated by a few self appointed posters. If you have a comment make it, but don't tell others to make contributions to another board. Quite frankly, that isn't your place.

I'm happy to listen to other views and accept a majority decision - or the board's moderator.

As I said, I don't want this to be seen as personal or aggressive, but I would like there to be a discussion between those using the board.

Stories with rape used to get deleted on the old board, these boards have been around for more then 20 years, so seeing the old rules now mean nothing is gonna discourage everyone.

[Nikolai]

I've just looked back over the board guidelines at the top of the board index and I think point number 5 is pertinent here and may have avoided most of the controversy. I quote...

"5) As you can see by reading some of the posts the stories range from simple humorous adolescent pranks or experiences, to stories involving more sexually explicit material. All I ask is if your story contains explicit material please make sure it is age appropriate (aka not illegal) and issue a warning letting the reader know in advance."

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
In your story you have two schoolboys coercing an adult woman to strip. You have a 13 year old girl conducting affairs. All the actions would be illegal, whether committed by a child or adult.

In this context, what exactly do you mean by 'age appropriate '.

If you are talking about sexual intercourse, then you may have a point, but then this would encompass any insertion into a body as this is the definition of rape in many countries. Its inclusion is often found on this board.
So where exactly should the line be drawn? It's a valid question, but if debated it needs to be honestly dealt with rather than a few posters acting as judge and jury.

I don't mean this to be personal or rude, but I find it difficult to accept the board being moderated by a few self appointed posters. If you have a comment make it, but don't tell others to make contributions to another board. Quite frankly, that isn't your place.

I'm happy to listen to other views and accept a majority decision - or the board's moderator.

As I said, I don't want this to be seen as personal or aggressive, but I would like there to be a discussion between those using the board.

Stories with rape used to get deleted on the old board, these boards have been around for more then 20 years, so seeing the old rules now mean nothing is gonna discourage everyone.

So..my take on this. Although many don't seem to think this type of content needs moderated and "if you don't like it don't read it." While no one is trying to be a self appointed moderator this subject material isn't exactly what the board was made for. As stated above rape stories used to be deleted from the old board. I realize the things done in many of the stories are illegal and on the edge of rapey at times but the general rule is pretty simple. Everything up until Forceful penis inside vagina is basically where the line is drawn. This fetish is extremely niche and finely traces the line in rapey and humiliation/embarrassment stuff and sometimes that lines blurs a little but I think the author knew it might be a little much when they asked for opinions. There's infinite amount of places for that exact subject material across the web, this is basically the only place for the stories featured on this board. No one is trying to self moderate and I know it sounds hypocritical with all kinds of terrible forced acts in other stories. But the veterans from the multiple boards weve been through know this isn't what is generally accepted on the board. I think at this point of the controversy with all the back and forth Viradea needs to make a say so there isn't confusion/unnecessary bickering on the board. Just my thoughts.

[HM2014]

Rape stories have always been against the rules on these boards, but I suppose since new ownership is here (Viredae), there are new rules too.

That said, reason why I came to this board is because rape stories have always made me extremely uncomfortable, these sites were always playful, maybe a LITTLE forceful when it came to touching, grabbing, stroking, etc.

But it never crossed into: "I'm going to have sex with you against your will."

This is not what the spirit of the old board was.

While I respect your fetishes and such I don't think this is the board for it. These are playful stories about stripping and SOMETIMES sex, anything forceful beyond handjobs, blowjobs, or cunnilingus seems to be crossing the line for me. >.<

Sorry if this is rude, it's just my opinion and not something I'd be happy to see more of on the board .o. I hope you have a great day though.

Hi Stella.

I don't think your post was rude at all - I appreciate the feedback.

I knew that my story may have crossed the line for some, but to be honest, I thought that would be mainly due to one of the characters being 14, rather than to do with the sexual intercourse.

[HM2014]

Sorry HM2014, I was following this until the rape scenes.

Rape's not my scene.

Admittedly, there's a fine line between coercion / humiliation and rape and there's often more than an element of the former in rape, but this goes too far over the line.

This isn't my board, and I'm not making judgement calls on others, but this isn't my thing. I feel queasy reading this

Hi Lorax.

Thanks for the comment.

Yeah I see where you're coming from. Personally (without knowing legal definitions), I didn't really think he raped her. I thought it was more like coercion into sex (rather than physically forcing her).

Also, I'm not really sure if there's much of line between rape/coercion into sex and some of the other things I've read on the forum. There was one story (can't remember the title) where two girls arranged to meet to settle a feud, and one took her Dad's taser and tased her rival, then tied her up naked in a basement and live-streamed her humiliation to their school lol. Pretty much all the stories on the forum contain acts that would be illegal and cause trauma to the victims.

[HM2014]

Honestly I don't mind rape elements as long as it's done right, tbh I feel like there should be another part of this board for XXX stories, so those who want to write them and enjoy them can and those who don't feel right reading them have context before hand.

The story in general was pretty good, I do wish that more drama and action was taken place. The writing was really good especially for the characters, but overall not much really happened and it was one sided the entire time. I'd love for a similar story but with more instances of exposure and a longer plot.

Thanks for complimenting the writing!

It did occur to me that around 80% of the story was basically one long scene lol. I knew when I started writing it that this would be a 'one and done' type exploitation, rather than a sprawling series of exploitations. I wanted it to be detailed and have a gritty vibe, so that what Elizabeth was being subjected to, and her reactions and emotions, could be savoured.

[HM2014]

In my case (and I believe in the case of the other posters too) I responded with my personal feedback, as requested. For me, it was that the story was very good but probably didn't fit the culture of this particular board. I would hope that was taken as my personal opinion as a reader, in response to the author's request for feedback. I certainly have never attempted to moderate this board and have no particular desire to do so - that's Viredae's job and one I hope he continues with for quite some time!

Hi. Thanks for saying the story was very good. Appreciated.

[Stella]

Sorry HM2014, I was following this until the rape scenes.

Rape's not my scene.

Admittedly, there's a fine line between coercion / humiliation and rape and there's often more than an element of the former in rape, but this goes too far over the line.

This isn't my board, and I'm not making judgement calls on others, but this isn't my thing. I feel queasy reading this

Hi Lorax.

Thanks for the comment.

Yeah I see where you're coming from. Personally (without knowing legal definitions), I didn't really think he raped her. I thought it was more like coercion into sex (rather than physically forcing her).

Also, I'm not really sure if there's much of line between rape/coercion into sex and some of the other things I've read on the forum. There was one story (can't remember the title) where two girls arranged to meet to settle a feud, and one took her Dad's taser and tased her rival, then tied her up naked in a basement and live-streamed her humiliation to their school lol. Pretty much all the stories on the forum contain acts that would be illegal and cause trauma to the victims.

It wasn't coercion, it was blackmail and having him feeling joy out of violating her and letting this child cum inside her multiple times. In other stories there's an element of desire to the victim, they are usually turned on, enjoyed it in SOME WAY, and most of all, they weren't forcibly fucked, blackmail is forcibly. I really hope if, in real life, you stopped a friend who was "coercing" a girl into letting him fuck her using damning evidence.

[cober]

I think people should stop with white knighting every story on this site has elements which at best are illegal and if they occurred in life would lead to criminal charges for example Debbi mistake forced nudity forced groping by under age children , other stories victim forced to cum front school friends or forced nudity this would lead to years of depression and likely sucked attempts but all theses purely stories and the writer gave a warning it was extreme!