storiesonline.net major changes - updated

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Clarifications On the new policy
Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
3/30/2025, 2:04:23 AM

So yesterday I announced our new content policy to get a certain type of people off my back.

I have caused undue panic by not being clear enough, and many things have happened that warrant this new thread.

OK, here we go:

It's not legal action by a legal entity that's causing this move. It's an insidious whisper campaign against the site to our hosting companies, claiming that the site overtly hosts child porn. In some countries around the world, written stories about sex with minors are indeed considered child porn. But not in the US. In the US, it's stated that 'Visual depictions' of minors engaging in sex is what is considered child porn.

But, hosting companies, who have no dog in this fight, would rather take the safe route and kick out potentially problematic content. It seems our previous hosting company had changed terms of service when they got acquired by a bigger company, and now their acceptable use policy prohibits 'any content relating to child porn and bestiality'. The keyword here is 'relating' to instead of 'is'. It was vague enough that our enemies used it to get us kicked out.

Our second host suspended our server to 'preserve the evidence', they copied our content, and they're examining it for actual child porn and got the site back online when I clarified that 'visual depictions' are in the US legal code and we don't have such things on the site. However, they reserved the right to kick us out if more trouble comes.

So far, no actual legal action has taken place.

I don't have the resources to sue the hosting companies to make them host content they are not at ease in hosting.

So to remove doubt about the future of the site, I need to make the content as legal as possible.

OK, done with the reasons behind the issue.

Now, how we'll proceed:

I started by using the old 'access level' mechanism to hide potentially problematic content using their tags. I hid close to 18,000 stories.

Now it turned out that some stories with 'no-sex' or 'minimal sex' had those tags. So I reversed it for those types of stories and un-hid close to 1300 stories.

It also turned out that many authors don't really know what these tags actually mean when they had selected them and selected some of the problematic tags for stories not containing any sex with minors.

In case your stories don't have sex with/between minors, just edit the tags for the stories with a dot next to their name and save, the tags will be removed. Let us know which stories you've fixed (by using the contact link). We'll verify that the stories don't have minors involved in visually described sex and if clear, we'll remove the dot.

We have actually already deleted a few hundred stories that had the problematic tags, that were too short, too low scoring to make keeping them worth the effort. So anything shorter than 1000 words and scoring less than 5 whose author is absent is gone already.

One important point: What's problematic is explicitly described sex. Implied sex that is not explicitly described in detail is not problematic. Saying Chad fucked Cindy (who are minors) is not problematic, but having a described sex scene between them is.

We need to get the most problematic contents fixed/removed first, so stories with Adult/Minor non-consensual sex are the highest priority, then Adult/Minor. We're still not sure about minor-minor sex stories. I'll talk to the hosting company's legal department to see if I can get clarification on their end.

Next, actual bestiality stories must go. Stories with werewolves and other fictional creatures are NOT bestiality. So those are safe, and the bestiality code is misapplied.

Clarification: Bestiality and Zoophelia are with actual animals like your pets. Not with furries or were-animals or fictional beasts.

I added dots to the stats page to stories that are hidden to give the author indication which stories are affected. That's how we got to 'but this story doesn't have sex with minors' bit.

So marked stories are NOT to be simply 'DELETED'. The dot says 'their tags mean they're problematic'. It means that they need updating, and until then they're mostly hidden.

If you don't do anything, we'll look through them and try to fix them, and if they can't be fixed, then they'll be deleted.

If you want to help, being the author and all, it's simple. If your stories don't have sex with minors, then you need to remove the wrongly applied codes, so if no Adult/Minor sex is in the story, remove Ma/ft, mt/FA, Ma/mt, and FA/ft. If there is no minor-minor sex, remove mt/ft, mt/mt, ft/ft.

Once you remove the codes, give me a list of the stories, and I'll remove the dot after verifying.

If a story has bestiality with fictional characters only (werewolves, etc.), then the bestiality tag doesn't apply. Remove it and let me know to remove the dot.

For any other marked story, authors have two choices: update them to be compliant by changing ages or removing explicit sex scenes with minors and reposting the needed parts. Then report the stories to us, and we'll remove the mark.

If a story cannot be fixed, or you don't think that you should fix it to make it compliant, then and only then, it gets removed.

From now until we can finish, we'll methodically go through marked stories and fix them when we can or delete them if they can't be fixed.


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[Jeepman89]

They never allowed characters under 18 at that site anyway.

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They never allowed characters under 18 at that site anyway.

Thats not totally true, I seen a lot of stories on there with people In high school which are under age.

[dublinjohn]

They never allowed characters under 18 at that site anyway.

They did, most do over stories and some major works like, A life well Lived and the story from Asending Author (Can't remember the name), I also remember a couple of stories by the sadly departed Lazlong called Wagons Ho, where one of the characters was younger too..

Realistically most people over the age of 16 are sexually active (at least my generation anyway), I imagine it will eventually hit all paywall sites, as I assume its the payment services companies forcing this, perhaps some countries should start thinking of 17 year olds as adults as a start, I know in a lot of countries I know, they are considered old enough to join the armed forces and possibly die for that country which to my simple mind means that they should be old enough to engage in any legal activity

[Blondie]

Do we need to start worrying about writing and posting such stories? Up until now, in the U.S. we have been protected by the first amendment. But these days, I'm beginning to wonder.

[dublinjohn]

They never allowed characters under 18 at that site anyway.

They did, most do over stories and some major works like, A life well Lived and the story from Asending Author (Can't remember the name), I also remember a couple of stories by the sadly departed Lazlong called Wagons Ho, where one of the characters was younger too..

Realistically most people over the age of 16 are sexually active (at least my generation anyway), I imagine it will eventually hit all paywall sites, as I assume its the payment services companies forcing this, perhaps some countries should start thinking of 17 year olds as adults as a start, I know in a lot of countries I know, they are considered old enough to join the armed forces and possibly die for that country which to my simple mind means that they should be old enough to engage in any legal activity

Forgot to add, the whole NIS genre is now banned on that site

[dublinjohn]

Do we need to start worrying about writing and posting such stories? Up until now, in the U.S. we have been protected by the first amendment. But these days, I'm beginning to wonder.

Thats a canadian site, which is why I think its the payment processing company as opposed to the law

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Yeah there over 17 pages of stories of Naked in school on that site https://storiesonline.net/universe/2/naked-in-school/ and also some authors were more hard core even with under age which I seen like this author https://storiesonline.net/a/bydasea

Yeah I not sure who is forcing the changes but yeah a lot of great stories going to get deleted and some maybe will be gone forever too.

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Yeah there over 17 pages of stories of Naked in school on that site https://storiesonline.net/universe/2/naked-in-school/ and also some authors were more hard core even with under age which I seen like this author https://storiesonline.net/a/bydasea

Yeah I not sure who is forcing the changes but yeah a lot of great stories going to get deleted and some maybe will be gone forever too.

The Naked in school section there goes back over 20 years now.



Naked In School Stories: A Universe
Naked in School stories is a universe of stories about kids who, enrolled by their parents or by volunteering, must stay completely naked for one whole week, obeying all the rules of the school. Original Concept by Karen Wagner.
The oldest which are Karen stories go back to 2002

[KiTA]

Yes, NIS used to be hosted on the old ASSTR site, which is sadly dead. (Given the age of the site, it's likely the admin aged out of running it and never got a team helping him.)

This is a really bad day, but, it's also the consequences of the Internet being crushed down into a tiny, Cable TV sized box. Easier to serve ads to you with that way, and it's less likely you'll disrupt an industry like with the old Internet. It doesn't help that we have a new generation of crazy cat ladies and the like who are discovering old ways to fainting couch and prove they're better than the neighbors -- the neighbors now being everyone else on the internet.

Of course, it goes without saying that you should immediately start archiving any stories you can that you don't want to go missing. Don't assume stories you like were archived by someone else. StoriesOnline has a zip and epub archiver, which is SUPER useful, although it may require you be a paid supporter.