RaccoonBatteryStaple wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:56 am
His locker was next to mine in 7th grade gym and I although I would have denied it at the time, I tried to sneak peeks at him when I could.
Oh, there are definitely a few guys in middle and high school that I would sneak peeks at when I could get away with it.
When was this that this happened? I know when I was that age, a guy getting pantsed wearing briefs was a rare treat, because he would be embarrassed not just to be pantsed, but to have everyone know that they hadn't switched to boxers yet.
This was late '80s. Where I was, most guys didn't switch to boxers until high school.
This other boy and I were the last two in our class to sprout pubic hair, so some of my interest was in which of us would get there first.
RaccoonBatteryStaple wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:56 am
His locker was next to mine in 7th grade gym and I although I would have denied it at the time, I tried to sneak peeks at him when I could.
This was late '80s. Where I was, most guys didn't switch to boxers until high school.
This other boy and I were the last two in our class to sprout pubic hair, so some of my interest was in which of us would get there first.
Do you have any information about the identity of the person who tried to pull down your pants? Could it be that his real intention was not to humiliate you but to see your ass? In other words, could he have felt sexual desire towards you?
Pluto2025 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:14 pm
Do you have any information about the identity of the person who tried to pull down your pants? Could it be that his real intention was not to humiliate you but to see your ass? In other words, could he have felt sexual desire towards you?
I'd never thought of it that way before.
One of the times for sure was the boy who was a year older than the rest of us. We sort of became friends later and he told me he thought I needed to "toughen up" in junior high. He might have done both times, I don't really remember.
The one other boy I knew that in retrospect might have been curious about me was never involved.
Besides, if they wanted to see my butt it was out every day in the shower at the end of gym.
Pluto2025 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:14 pm
Do you have any information about the identity of the person who tried to pull down your pants? Could it be that his real intention was not to humiliate you but to see your ass? In other words, could he have felt sexual desire towards you?
I'd never thought of it that way before.
One of the times for sure was the boy who was a year older than the rest of us. We sort of became friends later and he told me he thought I needed to "toughen up" in junior high. He might have done both times, I don't really remember.
The one other boy I knew that in retrospect might have been curious about me was never involved.
Besides, if they wanted to see my butt it was out every day in the shower at the end of gym.
At my age, this kind of thing (being pantsized) was considered a joke among a group of friends. It was humiliating for the person being joked about, especially in front of girls, and it made everyone laugh. But for some reason I think it involves also some kind early teenage sexual satisfaction.
Don't you agree ?
Pluto2025 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:35 pm
At my age, this kind of thing (being pantsized) was considered a joke among a group of friends. It was humiliating for the person being joked about, especially in front of girls, and it made everyone laugh. But for some reason I think it involves also some kind early teenage sexual satisfaction.
Don't you agree ?
I think there could be an element of that, but I also think it depends on the situation. I can get my mind around the idea of there being some vicariousness involved if someone would kind of like to show themselves but they're afraid to so they expose someone else. And I can see some situations where you might pants a friend as a way to "break the ice" in front of someone you know they're interested in physically. More often than not though I think it's mostly just about bullying, especially at the junior high level.
In my experience, I was the smart, awkward, overweight kid that badly wanted to be a grownup. Looking back I'm sure I came across thinking I was better than they were; academically I was but certainly not as a person. I understand how that made me a target at the time, but I think it also set me up to have this kink about it.
Pluto2025 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:35 pm
In my experience, I was the smart, awkward, overweight kid that badly wanted to be a grownup. Looking back I'm sure I came across thinking I was better than they were; academically I was but certainly not as a person. I understand how that made me a target at the time, but I think it also set me up to have this kink about it.
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I understand you so well. When you act timidly towards bullies in class, you become their primary target. Behind their humiliation there must be an instinctive sense of dominance other than sexuality. I have experienced this myself. Maybe when you are successful in your studies, this creates jealousy. You are right, this is something beyond sexuality. But it leaves permanent marks on a person's soul over the years. That feeling of being submissive can become a need.
RaccoonBatteryStaple wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:22 am
In my experience, I was the smart, awkward, overweight kid that badly wanted to be a grownup. Looking back I'm sure I came across thinking I was better than they were; academically I was but certainly not as a person. I understand how that made me a target at the time, but I think it also set me up to have this kink about it.
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I understand you so well. When you act timidly towards bullies in class, you become their primary target.
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You are right, this is something beyond sexuality. But it leaves permanent marks on a person's soul over the years. That feeling of being submissive can become a need.
And it's interesting how the submissiveness gets coupled with the embarrassment as a result. I think for every humiliating experience I've had like this, I've had the memories become fantasies... They start out exactly as it happened, but the experience always goes much, much further.
