Becky Johnson Doesn’t Need Modesty

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I'm not super creative so I really don't have a good reason why the attitude is changing and now girl's modesty i
Don't sell yourself short! first off, you created a "universe" - which is in and of itself, pretty cool. However, just from your short note -it shows you are already engaging on the motivations. A good story to me has some plausibility in it. The parents shouldn't just do things for funsies - and I like how this one has that element of plausible - yet remains light and fun/domestic discipline.

I think it's a creative idea for sure. In my "A little humiliation never hurt anyone, dear" story that's basically the central premise. It's a cheeky English story - The Mum tells her daughters that basically a little humiliation would be good for you because you've such a big ego when you are really just a bit of fluff and muff.

That becomes the title to the story, but as an example the Mum doesn't believe in wasting tea on the girls. They don't particularly care for it and she was raised in a place where simply because of poverty - the only ones who got tea were adults and the older boys. The girls didn't have it.

She also dotes on her son, and let's him manage the household pantry/shopping list, which is what sort of starts off the story. The storyteller complains but at the same time she says "It really doesn't matter if it's Jack or my mum who does the shopping, I'll eat what's in the pantry and served on the table, so nothing much has changed. it just sticks in my craw though that Jack gets to do it."

In that story, for better or worse I introduced the concept of the female condition, which are traits that the mom feels are in everyone- but that women are particularly inclined to exhibit when left unchecked.

Traits Mum Critiques as Part of the "Female Condition"
• Vanity: Obsessive focus on appearance.
• Jealousy: Sibling rivalry and competition.
• Deceit/Manipulation: Twisting truths or scheming.
• Laziness: Avoiding chores or responsibilities.
• Indulgence: Overindulging in luxuries or food.
• Pouting/Drama: Using emotional displays to manipulate.
• Greed: Wanting more privileges than earned.
• Arrogance: Acting superior or dismissing authority.
• Wastefulness: Using resources carelessly.
• Stubbornness: Refusing to adapt or accept rules.
• Selfishness: Prioritizing individual wants over group needs.
• Lustfulness: Wicked perversions and self-pleasure as opposed to pleasing others


She tends to think that it's for their own good to have a bit of domestic discipline to keep them from them their own foibles/flaws/natural tendencies, much like a diet requires will power. They need someone to slap the jelly donut out of their hands before they munch on it.

In retrospect, I think I could have played the story completely straight much like you have above but now it's all intrinsically interwoven. She basically announces one morning "Right, we are going to take some snaps! off with your knickers...you've got nothing to do all day anyway" and asks her son to start treating them like models.

At first, it's "just until lunch" but after the girls delay things with arguments, it's until tea, and then the Mum wants some additional scenes like "Naked Attraction" (the TV show) so Jack says that will be the next day, so now they are volunteered to do it the following day, and as the day progresses they won't be wrapping up until well after Dinner. Which, again I thought was fun.

So, I totally get that part. In this case, the mum believes in the natural order of things, and that girls are deluded to want to be astronauts and presidents, and they should leave that to the men. "Girls have needs and as long as those needs are taken care of, their wants should be making a good wife and mother"

While they say "Boys have needs, wants and ambitions, as they always have throughout history."

I don't need to personally believe that or advocate for unfair treatment, to enjoy what feels like "uneven" enforcement of rules. However, it's really not. If you look at the original Battleship game, that's all you need to see;

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That in the not too distant past, "family fun" was defined as Dad and son enjoying leisure time playing a strategic war game, while Mom and sis washed up and smiled from the kitchen.

Your story could have a multitude of reasons for this attitude outside of that - but I would think in this case, it's more of "a fair is fair" kind of thing that she's been over the boys for a bit too long and it's only fair that she brought down a peg. She doesn't have had to abuse her authority - and clearly Becky didn't.

It was just thought it best, that the boys have a go at enforcing the rules. I could see your stories having a number of reasons, including a dynamic blended family. Imagine if the Dad in this story married a new Mum with a more assertive step-brother.

"It's going to be unseemly for you to pop your step-brother, so he is going to babysit and enforce discipline, which means you'll be standing in the corner and being spanked by him when we think you need it, Becky"

It could be that as you said, the Doctor simply felt she needed a shake-up/atttiude check and was getting too uppity.

It could even be mandated by the school/culture.

"We are moving to a small town, and here the moms and daughters don't have modesty..so you are NOT to talk down to your brothers when you leave the house...and you'll have to be respectful to random boys and men that you meet."

"it's not so bad, Becky! I'll be doing it with you.." the mom could assure her.

A few hours later, she comes down from her room "Where are my bras and panties?"

"Oh, yeah...those are taboo here. You won't find any girls wearing bras in public. Most girls just wear tube tops...here are yours, go ahead and take your shirt off and try this on."

I am happy to brainstorm with you for future stories!! I love this concept.
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EddieDavidson wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:54 pm
The concept of "Shirts and skins" in Co-ed P.E where boys simply go without shirts, but girls would wear shirts is a great real world example of this kind of bias. They may be as flat as a pancake but they get that extra modesty of a training bra/tank top where a guy is expected to just walk around without a shirt. It's fun to imagine a story where the rules are different.

I like the phrasing of "Boys don't need modesty" or "Girls don't need modesty" to imply that there is some sort of biased thought, that since they don't have penis's dangling, and would have to pull out their boobs to breast feed anway/and/or have a flat chest that it's not that big of a deal.
This made me think of a chapter I wrote, where the typical "Rules" are suspended during a game of "Shirts vs Skins".

"Nudist Camp For Beginners"
Ch. 5: Misty's Memories
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A PE coach says a girl can play basketball on the Skins Team because she isn't developed enough to wear a bra.
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That's clever!

I was thinking about how to frame one of these stories. It seems like it is often a shock to the girl. In this case, Becky is pleading "Oh no! they can't see my precious little slit!"

However, I could imagine a story where the girls are very used to it being this way, as their tits blossom they may even say "Oh man, now I have to wear a shirt when I mow the grass!! I've finally sprouted titties this summer."

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EddieDavidson wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:43 pm I am happy to brainstorm with you for future stories!! I love this concept.
This sounds like fun! I'm always open to discussing ideas!
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EddieDavidson wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:48 pm That's clever!

I was thinking about how to frame one of these stories. It seems like it is often a shock to the girl. In this case, Becky is pleading "Oh no! they can't see my precious little slit!"

However, I could imagine a story where the girls are very used to it being this way, as their tits blossom they may even say "Oh man, now I have to wear a shirt when I mow the grass!! I've finally sprouted titties this summer."

I think it would be interesting to see you write maybe a more innocent story, since though I like your stories , at some point the sex aspect becomes too heavy for my taste, though I like your way of storytelling.

So maybe a collaboration would be a best of both worlda scenario, at least for me :D
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WOW! A Perseus/EddieDavidson collaboration. That would be righteous!
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Freesub wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:23 pm So maybe a collaboration would be a best of both worlda scenario, at least for me :D
Let me start a new thread. I am not sure what story I show penetrative sex in on here? Even Twatmas has been percolating toward a BJ but I'm curious about a collaboration. Maybe we could do sort of where I add one chapter, and you add a chapter, is that what you mean? I had an idea for a short story today, I could put up.

Today, I was thinking about the rules/concept of a "Modesty" story.

This is how I would see it;

TRADITIONAL

Traditional belief in "girls don't need modesty" centers around the idea that girls are inherently able to be nude/not seen as sexual/lasicivious under certain conditions. A real world example, would be when I was kid running around in the sprinklers in the yard was seen as perfectly normal. It was also reasonable to expect a bare-ass spanking out in the living room. Another is with shoes. As a kid, I was constantly encouraged not to wear shoes and to toughen up my feet. This was made clear with the concept of buying "one pair" for the year for school, and if your feet grew then tough titty/too bad/so sad. If you tore them up/got them all muddy playing that was punishable, so generally we were without shoes (exception obviously church, school, stores, restaurants).

Normal Expectations for Girls
Flat-Chested/No/whispy pubes:

-Swimming is fine in birthday suit - no reason to spend money on a top.
-Best case, bottoms are provided
-Spankings are always bare bottom
-Spankings in public are acceptable if girl is a brat
-Standing in the corner is always bottoms down
- Lawn chores and play outside - tops off is fine
- Fancy panties - thongs/lingerie is taboo/naughty for girls to wear
- Skirts are normal - jeans and shorts are for boys.
- Tube tops/tank tops are fine, training bras can be worn as shirts
- Sleeping attire is a single long shirt/nightgown
- Bathing suits if worn should be worn until they absolutely cannot fit any longer (not bought new every year) and stretch to fit
- Barefoot unless going to the store/restaurant/school is fine/expected
- Changing/trying on clothes in stores is done out in the open - dressing rooms are for ladies
-Getting caught masturbating is considered a big deal/to be punished
- Make up, painting nails, etc is a rarity/generally taboo

It is expected for girls to clear the tables, do most of the house work, lawn work, and not complain.
Girls should not talk over boys/men when they are talking.


Normal Expectations for Older girls
As girls develop, get older the rules change for them to some degree
-Swimming in a bikini is normal/expected/however they can opt to wear only bottoms
-Spankings are always bare bottom - it should be considered more humiliating for an older girl to get a spanking
-Standing in the corner is always bottoms down - it should be considered more humiliating to an older girl to get a "time out"
- Lawn chores and play outside - tube top/tank top is expected/normal
- Barefoot unless going to the store/restaurant/school is fine/expected, but may start wearing sandals to other people's houses
- Fancy panties - thongs/lingerie are acceptable
-Spankings in public are acceptable if girl is a brat/but much more rare
- Tops off in public to breast feed is perfectly acceptable.
- Dating is permitted with parental consent
- Sleeping attire is a single long shirt/nightgown
- Skirts/blouses only, tube tops sometimes, bra would be only for very chesty women
- Changing/trying on clothes in stores is done out in the open if it's a shirt, bottoms/bikinis/intimates can be tried on in dressing room
- Girls at this age, should masturbate in private and have some expectation of privacy
- Make up, painting nails, etc is expected/normal, but heavy clownish/whorish makeup would be a humliation

It is expected for girls to clear the tables, do most of the house work, lawn work, and not complain.
They are expected to help with childcare/babycare and babysit.
If babysitting boys, girls may not spank the boys.
Older girls may punish younger girls if they are directly supervise/babysitting when neccesary
Girls should not talk over men when they are talking. They have more lee-way with younger boys.

Normal Expectations for Adult Women/Wives
-Swimming in a bikini is normal/expected/however they can opt to wear only bottoms but it is now rare.
-Spankings are always bare bottom, but usually done in private and almost never in public places or openly around the house
-No more standing in the corner - it would be extremely rare/shocking for a woman to be made to stand in the corner as a punishment.
-no more lawn care, focus instead on the house - cooking/cleaning etc.
- Shoes are to be worn everywhere, possibly not in the house.
- Skirts/blouses only, tube tops sometimes, bra would be only for very chesty women
- Fancy panties - thongs/lingerie are acceptable
- Tops off in public to breast feed is perfectly acceptable.
- May use dressing rooms in stores for any reason/might try on a top without using one (rare)
- expectation of privacy for any intimate activity
- Make up, painting nails, etc is expected/normal, but heavy clownish/whorish makeup would be a humliation

Women are permitted to chastise and punish sons/daughters, and assign them chores, must focus on the interior of house/lawn work exterior work is to be done by daughters preferably.
Women are not to talk over men, but may do so over teenage boys as needed.

MODERN

Would be more akin to the current world, where a girl who grows up in a more progressive/modern family would be shocked that suddenly she is expected by her traditional Aunt to strip down.

I could be way off, but at least my own internal set of values would be guided by this as a writer. This would be more like a guideline, and someone who is a traditional parent, may decide to selectively enforce some/all/more of these.
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Two questions about the modesty stories;

1. How does it apply to female masturbation?

On the one hand, it could be "You are absolutely forbidden from touching yourself!"

I liken this to the concept of running around naked in the sprinklers or removing your swimsuit to shower at the beach - its asexual.

On the other hand, it could be "It's no big deal, finger banging your little piss flaps is not that big of a deal, if they want to watch you then let them have a good look"


Could even be a bit like when a dog humps the couch, everyone just laughs and and says "Well, it's a very friendly dog"

I have a neighbor with a British bulldog that used to say that, because that dog would basically hump anyone or anything that came over, and they were heavy enough/big enough that it is happening whether you want it to or not.

2. How would dating work in the concept of modesty?

Could a girl pick/choose/go on dates with boys? Have a boyfriend?

How would that work to date a girl, who gets naked on the date because it's not that big a deal and girls don't need modesty?

I could definitely picture the boy coming over to pick up his date and the parents telling her to change into something else in the living room and letting him decide which outfit she wears. However, depending on question one - the idea that they should even be dating may be consider verboten.
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another question:

In a world where modesty is not needed, would women's bathrooms be gender neutral, since people should be free to come and go as the women do not need privacy?
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Depends in that Universe if boys also don’t need modesty as well. If no one needs modesty then I guess there is no need for male / female but if boys do need to maintain modesty then seperate male utilities would be required.
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